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Gammel 05-05-04, 22:33   #3
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Vi kan jo fortsette kristendomstimen... Siden vi nå var inne på Bønn, og fader vår.

I den kristne tradisjonen, og de offisielle oversettelsene er fadervår en oppramsing som vi alle har pugget, og kan framføre på rams. Men bønnen kan også sees på andre måter. Spesielt om en ser på andre oversettelser.

Jeg ser på Fader Vår, og på all bønn, som en serie affirmasjoner.

Her følger et utdrag fra en bok jeg har på datan, gi meg en lyd så deler jeg gjerne!

Fra Charles Fillmore's - "Teach us to Pray":

When Jesus' disciples asked Him to teach them how to pray
He warned them against making a display of their praying in
order to be seen of men. They should retire to their "inner
chamber" and pray to the Father who sees in secret and
rewards openly. Then He said, "After this manner therefore
pray." The Lord's Prayer was given as a sample: not to be
followed literally. It is a petition according to the
American revision; but according to Fenton's translation it
is a series of affirmations, as follows:


"Our Father in the Heavens; Your Name must be being
hallowed;

"Your kingdom must be being restored;

"Your will must be being done, both in Heaven and upon the
Earth.

"Give us to-day our to-morrow's bread;

"And forgive us our faults, as we forgive those offending
us, for You would not lead us into temptation, but deliver
us from its evil."


As in all matters where we seek divine help we are free to
use any words we choose or no words at all.

"Prayer is the soul's sincere desire,

Uttered or unexpressed."

Prayer in man is a conscious expression of the upward trend
of nature found everywhere. So every impulse or desire of
the soul for life, love, light, is a prayer.

Eliphaz repeated a prayer formula when he said, "Thou shalt
also decree a thing, and it shall be established unto thee."

Jesus put the same idea in these words: "Whatsoever ye
shall ask in my name, that will I do."

All growth and unfoldment from atom to sun is based upon
this law of soul urge.

What you earnestly desire and persistently affirm will be
yours, if you "faint not."

When we frame our desires in sound words and place them
before our indwelling Lord, we are using intelligently the
supreme law of God in bringing into manifestation that
which He has implanted in us.

A prayer without desire in it, a prayer without sincerity
in it, a prayer without soul in it, a prayer without Spirit
in it is a fruitless prayer.


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